corboy Wrote In Part On 9/17.2014:
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More on Len Oakes:
> Oakes lived in and got married in a commune led by
> a charismatic pastor.
>
> He and his wife eventually had worries about the
> direction it was taking
> and they wisely left. Sometime later, the leader
> took the community into
> a crisis.
>
> Oakes interviewed 20 different charismatic leaders
> -- those willing to be interviewed.
>
> All of them turned out to have great difficulty
> enjoying and feeling comfortable
> in adult, peer to peer relationships. All of them
> had to be within a structure
> where they and their vision were deferred to.
>
> Being a leader was hard work. They had to micro
> manage and be in control and
> on alert, all the time.
>
> The members of the group could, as a group and in
> shared enthusiasm accomplish a very great deal.
> Those who did not get intimate (inner circle) with the leader and
> who
> left the community when they sensed themselves
> ready (as the Oakes chose to do) -- they fared
> best.
>
> The leaders all seemed to have some form of injury
> to self image. All of them
> sought self repair by influencing the world
> outside of themselves.
>
> The first thing they had to do was find some way
> to believe in themselves as marked for a special
> mission, and then find ways to persuade others to
> share
> their belief in themselves as special.
>
> Prophetic Charisma, by Len Oakes. A very good
> read.
>
> There are some excerpts from the book on Sustained
> Action, a website that
> examines the methods and damage done by Carlos
> Castaneda.
>
> [www.google.com]
> len+oakes+sustained+action&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&sou
> rce=hp&gbv=1&btnG=Search
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Note: Lens says all cult leaders had some form of injury to self image. JRS was booted out of 2 Assembly of God churches and prior to the Walk, his congregation left. Once at South Gate, I saw an elderly couple get up and leave during the service. The expression on JRS's countenance was not the confident bold charismatic preacher. He looked embarrassed and I noticed he kept gulping. At the time I felt sorry and sympathy for him.
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>
More on Len Oakes:
> Oakes lived in and got married in a commune led by
> a charismatic pastor.
>
> He and his wife eventually had worries about the
> direction it was taking
> and they wisely left. Sometime later, the leader
> took the community into
> a crisis.
>
> Oakes interviewed 20 different charismatic leaders
> -- those willing to be interviewed.
>
> All of them turned out to have great difficulty
> enjoying and feeling comfortable
> in adult, peer to peer relationships. All of them
> had to be within a structure
> where they and their vision were deferred to.
>
> Being a leader was hard work. They had to micro
> manage and be in control and
> on alert, all the time.
>
> The members of the group could, as a group and in
> shared enthusiasm accomplish a very great deal.
> Those who did not get intimate (inner circle) with the leader and
> who
> left the community when they sensed themselves
> ready (as the Oakes chose to do) -- they fared
> best.
>
> The leaders all seemed to have some form of injury
> to self image. All of them
> sought self repair by influencing the world
> outside of themselves.
>
> The first thing they had to do was find some way
> to believe in themselves as marked for a special
> mission, and then find ways to persuade others to
> share
> their belief in themselves as special.
>
> Prophetic Charisma, by Len Oakes. A very good
> read.
>
> There are some excerpts from the book on Sustained
> Action, a website that
> examines the methods and damage done by Carlos
> Castaneda.
>
> [www.google.com]
> len+oakes+sustained+action&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&sou
> rce=hp&gbv=1&btnG=Search
________________________________________________________________
Note: Lens says all cult leaders had some form of injury to self image. JRS was booted out of 2 Assembly of God churches and prior to the Walk, his congregation left. Once at South Gate, I saw an elderly couple get up and leave during the service. The expression on JRS's countenance was not the confident bold charismatic preacher. He looked embarrassed and I noticed he kept gulping. At the time I felt sorry and sympathy for him.